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	<title>Comments on: Save Westhampton 16</title>
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		<title>By: FTRea</title>
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		<dc:creator>FTRea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I understand that the current numbers suggest that IF one was going to cut out lines, the Westhampton would be one to consider. What I don&#039;t understand are the whys that would explain this route&#039;s performance problem. 

What I&#039;m saying is that we are now heading into an uncertain time in which there could be a dramatic drop-off in the use of private cars. If that happens, this very same bus line may once again become an essential part of how people get around.

This is a time that calls for vision beyond relying on statistics that are  out-of-date if they are three months old.  Look at what&#039;s been  happening to the gas-guzzling lifestyle in the last six months.  

Both Richmond and the Commonwealth of Virginia need to resolve that mass transportation options won&#039;t shrivel, just when more people are likely to need them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I understand that the current numbers suggest that IF one was going to cut out lines, the Westhampton would be one to consider. What I don&#8217;t understand are the whys that would explain this route&#8217;s performance problem. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that we are now heading into an uncertain time in which there could be a dramatic drop-off in the use of private cars. If that happens, this very same bus line may once again become an essential part of how people get around.</p>
<p>This is a time that calls for vision beyond relying on statistics that are  out-of-date if they are three months old.  Look at what&#8217;s been  happening to the gas-guzzling lifestyle in the last six months.  </p>
<p>Both Richmond and the Commonwealth of Virginia need to resolve that mass transportation options won&#8217;t shrivel, just when more people are likely to need them.</p>
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		<title>By: john m</title>
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		<dc:creator>john m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GRTC&#039;s John Lewis &lt;a href=&quot;http://riverdistrictnews.com/2008/09/29/john-lewis-explains-grtc-bus-rapid-transit/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gave a presentation back in September&lt;/a&gt; where he spoke to this. The last 5 or 6 slides of &lt;a href=&quot;http://riverdistrictnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/grtc-strategic-plan-update.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his presentation&lt;/a&gt; (PDF) explain the metrics that they use in looking at this.

* WH16 has is one of the 8 worst performing local routes that GRTC runs. 

* The farebox accounts for only 16% of the cost of the run. 

* In addition, there are only 12 riders per hour on the line. 

* The WP16 brought in $149,000 and cost $912,000 last year, a $763,000 deficit. 

Also, looking at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ridegrtc.com/images/systemmapAug2008.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the GRTC routes map&lt;/a&gt; (PDF), it appears that routes #2 and #13 are viable alternatives to route #16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRTC&#8217;s John Lewis <a href="http://riverdistrictnews.com/2008/09/29/john-lewis-explains-grtc-bus-rapid-transit/" rel="nofollow">gave a presentation back in September</a> where he spoke to this. The last 5 or 6 slides of <a href="http://riverdistrictnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/grtc-strategic-plan-update.pdf" rel="nofollow">his presentation</a> (PDF) explain the metrics that they use in looking at this.</p>
<p>* WH16 has is one of the 8 worst performing local routes that GRTC runs. </p>
<p>* The farebox accounts for only 16% of the cost of the run. </p>
<p>* In addition, there are only 12 riders per hour on the line. </p>
<p>* The WP16 brought in $149,000 and cost $912,000 last year, a $763,000 deficit. </p>
<p>Also, looking at <a href="http://www.ridegrtc.com/images/systemmapAug2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">the GRTC routes map</a> (PDF), it appears that routes #2 and #13 are viable alternatives to route #16.</p>
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