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		<title>By: gray</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13077</link>
		<author>gray</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know that Dwight Jones and Goldman are democrats and both endorse Obama but what about Williams, Pantele, and Grey?  Who is the most republican of the bunch?  Who would make a true civil servant like Warner or Kaine?

I know when it comes to local politics party affiliations usually don't matter, however, with this race, knowing this information can help voters make a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Dwight Jones and Goldman are democrats and both endorse Obama but what about Williams, Pantele, and Grey?  Who is the most republican of the bunch?  Who would make a true civil servant like Warner or Kaine?</p>
<p>I know when it comes to local politics party affiliations usually don&#8217;t matter, however, with this race, knowing this information can help voters make a decision.</p>
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		<title>By: FTRea</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13079</link>
		<author>FTRea</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13079</guid>
					<description>Gray,

In local political races party affiliations aren't supposed to be an issue, but nothing happens in a vacuum. So, who is the most loyal Democrat and who is the true Democrat, and who is the most Obamafied Democrat, etc., will all matter in the long run. 

As far your questions go, I'd like to know the answers, but I don't.  I could guess, but I won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray,</p>
<p>In local political races party affiliations aren&#8217;t supposed to be an issue, but nothing happens in a vacuum. So, who is the most loyal Democrat and who is the true Democrat, and who is the most Obamafied Democrat, etc., will all matter in the long run. </p>
<p>As far your questions go, I&#8217;d like to know the answers, but I don&#8217;t.  I could guess, but I won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burger</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13105</link>
		<author>Scott Burger</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Goldman has endorsed Obama as well.

I find the Nader = 'spoiler' =Goldman motif irresponsible, erroneous, and insulting to the whole process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldman has endorsed Obama as well.</p>
<p>I find the Nader = &#8217;spoiler&#8217; =Goldman motif irresponsible, erroneous, and insulting to the whole process.</p>
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		<title>By: FTRea</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13113</link>
		<author>FTRea</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13113</guid>
					<description>Scott,

I know you do, because I've already read your comments on this topic elsewhere. If you stick with that kind of angry approach, we'll see how many friends it makes for you. And, we'll see how many people will turn away from such strident rhetoric. 

Here's the truth, like it or not: I have not selected a candidate to support in the mayoral race. I'm not even leaning toward any of them. Moreover, I have nothing against Goldman at all. 

Bottom line: I've been writing about politics a long time, so, I'm accustomed to partisans trying to bully me. It hasn't stopped me from calling it like I see it before. Nor will it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I know you do, because I&#8217;ve already read your comments on this topic elsewhere. If you stick with that kind of angry approach, we&#8217;ll see how many friends it makes for you. And, we&#8217;ll see how many people will turn away from such strident rhetoric. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the truth, like it or not: I have not selected a candidate to support in the mayoral race. I&#8217;m not even leaning toward any of them. Moreover, I have nothing against Goldman at all. </p>
<p>Bottom line: I&#8217;ve been writing about politics a long time, so, I&#8217;m accustomed to partisans trying to bully me. It hasn&#8217;t stopped me from calling it like I see it before. Nor will it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burger</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13235</link>
		<author>Scott Burger</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13235</guid>
					<description>1) Of course you can write whatever you want, but you do have some responsibility to be accurate in your reporting.
2) Calling Goldman a "Nader-like spoiler" sounds like partisan bullying to me. I urge you to re-evaluate the loaded terms.
3) This is more about principle than a popularity contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Of course you can write whatever you want, but you do have some responsibility to be accurate in your reporting.<br />
2) Calling Goldman a &#8220;Nader-like spoiler&#8221; sounds like partisan bullying to me. I urge you to re-evaluate the loaded terms.<br />
3) This is more about principle than a popularity contest.</p>
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		<title>By: FTRea</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13271</link>
		<author>FTRea</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13271</guid>
					<description>Scott,

Please note, I'm a writer not an activist. So, I won't let you take any words away from me. 

"Spoiler" is a term that I believe migrated from baseball to politics. In baseball, it refers to a team that is out of the running for the pennant, but by beating teams still in the hunt it can determine the eventual winner. 

As far as Nader is concerned (we've been through this before), I've never blamed Nader for Gore's loss. Gore's failure was his own fault. But, in retrospect, it's fair and accurate to refer to the role Nader played in that election year as that of a "spoiler."

That term may rub you the wrong way, but by angrily insisting it's wrong, wrong, WRONG, I don't believe you are changing many minds.    

To refresh your memory, I have all the respect in the world for Ralph Nader's outstanding contributions over decades, as a consumer advocate. He's been a hero of mine. 

But I don't think Nader serves any good cause by continuing to declare himself a presidential candidate every four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Please note, I&#8217;m a writer not an activist. So, I won&#8217;t let you take any words away from me. </p>
<p>&#8220;Spoiler&#8221; is a term that I believe migrated from baseball to politics. In baseball, it refers to a team that is out of the running for the pennant, but by beating teams still in the hunt it can determine the eventual winner. </p>
<p>As far as Nader is concerned (we&#8217;ve been through this before), I&#8217;ve never blamed Nader for Gore&#8217;s loss. Gore&#8217;s failure was his own fault. But, in retrospect, it&#8217;s fair and accurate to refer to the role Nader played in that election year as that of a &#8220;spoiler.&#8221;</p>
<p>That term may rub you the wrong way, but by angrily insisting it&#8217;s wrong, wrong, WRONG, I don&#8217;t believe you are changing many minds.    </p>
<p>To refresh your memory, I have all the respect in the world for Ralph Nader&#8217;s outstanding contributions over decades, as a consumer advocate. He&#8217;s been a hero of mine. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think Nader serves any good cause by continuing to declare himself a presidential candidate every four years.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burger</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13420</link>
		<author>Scott Burger</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Maybe you should leave "baseball terms" out of your non-activist political writing then. 

Calling Nader and Goldman spoilers is inaccurate because, by your own logic above, neither of them are determining eventual winners. 

I will stand by my judgment that this is in fact partisan bullying. You are welcome to disagree. 

Speaking of partisanship, what is going on with the City Democratic Party's endorsement process for mayoral candidates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should leave &#8220;baseball terms&#8221; out of your non-activist political writing then. </p>
<p>Calling Nader and Goldman spoilers is inaccurate because, by your own logic above, neither of them are determining eventual winners. </p>
<p>I will stand by my judgment that this is in fact partisan bullying. You are welcome to disagree. </p>
<p>Speaking of partisanship, what is going on with the City Democratic Party&#8217;s endorsement process for mayoral candidates?</p>
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		<title>By: FTRea</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13439</link>
		<author>FTRea</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13439</guid>
					<description>Scott,

Maybe you should consider that the hammer is not the best tool for every job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Maybe you should consider that the hammer is not the best tool for every job.</p>
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		<title>By: gray</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13495</link>
		<author>gray</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13495</guid>
					<description>Scott, I think the Richmond Democratic Party will endorse Dwight Jones.  That is my guess.

Scott and FTRea, There is a huge chance that Pantele and Grey will be the ones taking votes from eachother.  

Goldman is the independent.  

I don't know where Lawrence Williams falls but I do like his idea of placing the jail house next to Phillip Morris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I think the Richmond Democratic Party will endorse Dwight Jones.  That is my guess.</p>
<p>Scott and FTRea, There is a huge chance that Pantele and Grey will be the ones taking votes from eachother.  </p>
<p>Goldman is the independent.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where Lawrence Williams falls but I do like his idea of placing the jail house next to Phillip Morris.</p>
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		<title>By: Ram Fan</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13499</link>
		<author>Ram Fan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I had the opportunity to meet with Bob Grey tonight.  What an impressive man!  He has been a community leader in his younger days with the Richmond Crusade for Voters, a regional leader with the Chamber, and a national leader with the American Bar Association.  He is committed to maintaining our strong mayor system - my understanding is that the other candidates favor a stronger Council.  I'm convinced.  Robert Grey is the man!!

BTW - Wilder was there sporting a handsome goatee (sp?) and he certainly gave the impression that he thought Grey was the one to carry on the strong mayor system.  There were several other local elected officials and some heavy hitters from the community present.  Remember that the General Assembly can consider charter changes during the next Mayor's term.  We don't want to return to a strong council, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the opportunity to meet with Bob Grey tonight.  What an impressive man!  He has been a community leader in his younger days with the Richmond Crusade for Voters, a regional leader with the Chamber, and a national leader with the American Bar Association.  He is committed to maintaining our strong mayor system - my understanding is that the other candidates favor a stronger Council.  I&#8217;m convinced.  Robert Grey is the man!!</p>
<p>BTW - Wilder was there sporting a handsome goatee (sp?) and he certainly gave the impression that he thought Grey was the one to carry on the strong mayor system.  There were several other local elected officials and some heavy hitters from the community present.  Remember that the General Assembly can consider charter changes during the next Mayor&#8217;s term.  We don&#8217;t want to return to a strong council, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Burger</title>
		<link>http://fdhub.net/mayoral-race-notes/#comment-13503</link>
		<author>Scott Burger</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bob Grey brags about "rescuing the downtown arts center deal". I would not be bragging if I was him:

http://saverichmond.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Grey brags about &#8220;rescuing the downtown arts center deal&#8221;. I would not be bragging if I was him:</p>
<p><a href="http://saverichmond.com/" rel="nofollow">http://saverichmond.com/</a></p>
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